„Scary Stories to tell in the Dark 2“ kommt plus Interview mit Regisseur André Øvredal

Geek-Pool

First of all I like the movie. It’s a great one. My first question goes a little bit deeper. What inspired you,what motivated you to become a film maker especially in the horror movie genre?

André Øvredal

I’m not really one who went much to the movie theater but my parents bought the VHS player back in like 1982 or something. And I grew up watching videos and a lot of them were horror movies and I had this habit of trying to get a hold of horror movies that were not legal in Norway. Like Evil Dead for example which is a very normal horror movie was not allowed in. And remember we couldn’t get a hold of Dawn of the dead and all these classics in the 70s and it was so exciting to find those and I really fell in love with horror movies through watching and everything I could get over in the video stores and even really really bad horror movies that you know to the classics obviously like the older than The Exorcist.

André Øvredal

And so I did when I was about 15 16 I think I did a horror movie about a person who gets possessed by a Ouija board.

Geek-Pool

Oh yeah.

André Øvredal

It was like a home movie that we just met him. It was a full of 90 or 80 minutes long I think.

André Øvredal

And so I’ve just been I just love the genre. My whole life.

Geek-Pool

Do you have a personal favorite horror movie?

André Øvredal

Yeah. Tons. I mean I don’t know if I have one but I think if I was gonna have to single out one it probably lands on poltergeist. Because it’s just it is also fun. It’s a scary movie that is as a sense of humor. The characters are really funny and they’re really. And it’s also a very beautiful movie where the scares are not just scary. And I think you know the exorcist and more recently The Conjuring, The Sixth Sense and you know it’s. And you know the classics are the great ones.

Geek-Pool

Yes. I Understand

Geek-Pool

Some other question. You made a lot of short films.

Geek-Pool

How difficult is it to make a short horror movie with a low budget. I mean eight minutes are not so much time to me to create suspense.

André Øvredal

Yeah I mean I I still think that if I was going to give advice to a young filmmaker or a student or something it would be to do just that make a short horror film of maximum 10 minutes I think want to really watch it on the stand how simple it can be. It’s lights out. There is a Swedish short film that became a big Hollywood horror. Yeah. Lights out.

André Øvredal

And I think in the short it’s like three minutes long but it’s real really scary. And to the point I think there are tons of great horror movies like that. I was part of a kind of executive produced a short called Polaroid in Norway that was became a Hollywood horror film as well. And that is also a really great sharp little horror film and it proved he and his career you know it just did the child’s play. So there is I think that is a really good way to break in. And I think you can if you have five minutes of screen time you can create something suspenseful.

André Øvredal

It just had to be really clear read about Hitchcock how he creates suspense you know but it’s difficult.

Geek-Pool

I am a filmmaker a young filmmaker. I study filmmaking and directing. I think it’s a little bit difficult because I don’t have to budget to make some scary CGI.

André Øvredal

I don’t think that matters. I think it’s about suspense and storytelling. It’s about where you put the camera how you what the story is. I think you give you a room like this and you could create a really great little suspense.

André Øvredal

I think horror is all about suspense. It’s not about CGI. It’s not about anything like that. I think it’s about coming up with an idea that is clear enough that is interesting enough and shoot it in an interesting way with good actors. Good actors is essential don’t use your knees don’t use your family members go find a real good actor that will elevate whatever you’re doing so much.

Geek-Pool

And how did you find your actors especially for Troll Hunter.

André Øvredal

I think we did it in casting. We cast the lead.

André Øvredal

Playing the troll hunter. He was a very famous standup comedian but he had the attitude that I wanted in the Troll Hunter character but he’d never really acted in a movie before. So we needed to go find him. But he was great. He read really you know he knew how to perform he knew how to memorize the lines and knew how it was kind of him.

André Øvredal

The character, but the rest were cast through auditions and we did this kind of chemistry reads where we put several actors together in a room and they would play scenes and we’ll see how they play with each other because they needed to be a group of friends. So.

Geek-Pool

And how did it work. I mean you made a lot of short movies before Troll Hunter. And how did you get the budget for such a huge movie like this one.

André Øvredal

I mean I think it was kind of I made I kind of lived off of commercial space I met a bunch of commercials yeah. Weirdly enough I never met any in Germany but it’s. And then. So that was a professional I kind of became professional through doing com mercials. Yeah I did a couple of shorts. I did one short. That was a comedy.

André Øvredal

Just before doing Troll Hunter and then I and the things I had a I had an idea that every you know I think it’s a good idea. The idea of Troll Hunter was a good idea. So I went in and I pitched it to a famous producer in Norway and I told him This is your day it’s gonna be a great movie and he’s he loved it. So he’s the one who got the money. I didn’t if it hadn’t been for the producer.

André Øvredal

The movie would never have got made. So it was lucky I found the right producer. He got there. He he got the movie he understood what it was. And we were able to make it. So it’s unfortunate that there is a lot of luck involved. That’s.

André Øvredal

But if you persistence eventually you’ll get lucky if you keep doing it. Good good good. It advice for me because know it is I mean you persistence ever.

André Øvredal

I’m working on a on a couple of movies with some producers now and they’ve struggled for 10-15 years to get this movies made. They’ve just again and again and they collapse and they want to try them again. And and maybe finally we gonna get to make it. Persistence is crucial.

Geek-Pool

So after Troll Hunter. The big success of Toronto’s festivals. How did you get involved into the autopsy of Jane Doe because you didn’t write the story. Yeah.

André Øvredal

Yeah no I mean yeah I never walking out of I was in L.A. and I remember walking out that summer of 2013 walking out of the conjuring and really thinking this is a great horror movie. This is a classic form of a done with weight the real way and not you know at that time we were a little bit done with the found footage style and stuff like that. And this was a really good horror movie and I wanted to read horror scripts and eventually of a friend of mine in my agency he sent me this great it’s called the autopsy Jane Doe you have to read it he said and I spent a month I couldn’t I had I was so busy with stuff I didn’t read it.

André Øvredal

There they they’re interviewing directors you have to read it. They’re interviewing directors. And I sat down finally and I read it and I’ve read it in 45 minutes. And it was so scary. It was the most terrifying thing. I immediately called them get me on the phone with the producers and they were. And I knew the producers already from another project I was working on. So they were already interested in working with me. So then we had a good conversation. I met a big documents. I spent a couple of weeks putting together this presentation of what the movie was gonna be.

André Øvredal

And I sent it to them and they loved it.

André Øvredal

And that was that.

Geek-Pool

And I think there were a lot of challenges you have to go through because the Jane Doe character. She didn’t blink with the eyes the whole time. How did you get this managed.

André Øvredal

Oh no. I mean it is. Here’s the trick.

André Øvredal

That was a lot of CGI because we when we shot her we had you know we had the camera here she’s lying on the table we had a camera there and we told her lifestyle still as you can but you can blink. So she’d blinked whenever she needed to but then we went in afterwards and remove the blink. And with CGI. So she’s. And we even went in and we fixed muscles and we fixed up because there is when you start to look at a person like that you see that even little muscle moving you don’t really notice are alive.

André Øvredal

You know something happens there’s always some little twitch somewhere that happens. So I think over her entire face and body with CGI like three four hundred shots and clean them up

Geek-Pool

what really fascinates needs me on your movies is the CGI looks so real. I mean the trolls now the Characters from Scary Stories to Tell in the dark?

André Øvredal

I mean I’ve been lucky with again with the people I’ve been working with I’ve been amazing on TROLL HUNTER We had you know everybody in Norway who were working on it wanted to make the first troll movie because the trolls are so important in our culture. So they they really did their best work ever.

André Øvredal

When I did that movie and then on Jane Doe it was so I had to make again amazing collaborators who knew how we’re very profit by making it real. So it’s about the people you surround yourself with that can help you because I can’t do this stuff myself. I can only say that needs to be better than this if we don’t like this stuff isn’t it.

André Øvredal

I can help push but also of course on on scary stories I have more money and you have Guillermo del Toro who knows monsters like nobody else. And he would be flying to Los Angeles and work with with the designers of the creators while I was preparing the movie in Toronto road so he would fly there and he would help me communicate with them and tell them I work with them on the details of the skin and changing just little amazing details.

André Øvredal

So that was fantastic. And then the CGI the company that did the CGI fix us on little things that were around and they worked with Guillermo on the shape of water. So they did the fish man in that movie. So they did an amazing job making just these little alterations when we needed it.

Geek-Pool

And how did you got involved into this project „Scary Stories to tell in the Dark“? and to work with Guillermo del Toro like you said he’s the mastermind.

André Øvredal

Yeah. No I don’t know how I ended up in that situation. I mean what was funny was around Christmas or January 2009 16 he had seen or 2017 or in January 2000 something he had seen the autopsy of Jane Doe and he put out a tweet saying how much he liked it.

André Øvredal

And I was like Oh my God. And then six months later he decides not to direct scary stories because he was supposed to direct it himself. And he had said to the other producers in the studio what about Andre. I love his movie The autopsy Jane Doe. So they sent me the script and suddenly they didn’t talk to anybody else. So it’s kind of like it’s just one of those things that you can never predict. But that really cool. Yeah it’s amazing

Geek-Pool

what an opportunity. And how was it to work with him. Is it really like that. He know exactly in which direction the movie should go.

André Øvredal

Yeah I mean he doesn’t he let me make my own movie. He said. Yeah he totally said you’re going to because it’s I have to make a thousand decisions without him. So because I’m the director and that’s my job. So he said you gonna make your own movie.

André Øvredal

And it wouldn’t have you know his version of this movie would be very different. Yeah it would be you know he can kind of imagine the world he builds is so unique. So Guillermo and they in a way they’ll connect whether you see this film or that film from him all the way from Kronos to shape of water. There is there was a unified universe that is entirely Guillermo del Toro. And if this was one of his movies he would be different. It was just so.

André Øvredal

But he helped me a lot. We would have conversations about every little detail on the characters and he would help us. We would be touching up the script and we would sit together like this in a room and and the writers would be tweaking stuff and we would be discussing stuff. And in the editing room he came in and I’d finished my director’s cut which was longer than this.

André Øvredal

And he said okay let’s let’s you know we want to make this even sharper. So give me three days. And he sat with us for three days and we cut down the movie by 20 minutes. And and it really became I mean I was like OK. We took out a few things that I really liked but in the end it was a better movie. So it was a really good process.

Geek-Pool

And also the characters I mean the kids how was it to work with the kids? I mean they’re s o much younger. I can imagine that’s a lot of trouble.

Geek-Pool

I think to work with much younger actors than the ones you work before.

André Øvredal

Yeah but they were so easy. These were amazing actors. They were so professional. They were as I mean like Zoe who plays Stella. Yeah she was as professional as an actor. Three times her age. She will come on sets completely prepared. She know psychology she understands how to how to make it into acting. We would sometimes sometimes I would not even give her really good direction I would just say something okay. We gotta fix that little thing. And she said OK I get it I get it let me do it again.

André Øvredal

And she did it again and it was.

André Øvredal

And they would come up with their own with a lot of their own stuff. Again it’s all about casting. I think somebody probably Woody Allen I think said you know if you if you cast right 90 percent of your job as a director is done. And I think there is a lot of truth in that. It’s the actors are invaluable to making a good movie.

Geek-Pool

Can you tell me scary stories to tell the dark the books are like child books. I mean goose bumps for me on Tales From The Crypt so how can you tell me how difficult was it for you to make more child friendly movie than your other movies.

Geek-Pool

Autopsy of Jane Doe not really for children.

André Øvredal

No no. That’s an adult horror movie for sure. And my next one will be a very adult horror movie. But it’s this one this is an intro Hunter was a very light horror that was in Norway it was 11 years age group. He was kind of a comedy and I think that you no it wasn’t a problem at all. I had fun because I think it’s all about creating suspense. Yeah I think it’s great gore and guts and blood and violence. Yes you can do that but you can also have a lot of fun making it scary without it to create tension and scares and mood.

André Øvredal

It’s one of the wonders of horror. It is uh it’s a layer that is on no other genre. And I think that has no age range. You can do that on a I mean Disney you can find out in a Disney movie. You know it just. It’s just about how you how far you go.

André Øvredal

And I think you know I had a lot of fun creating a horror movie for young people. I think that was a perfect thing to do.

Geek-Pool

That is what I like most about this film because more movies go blood and more blood. Yeah I liked it. How do you see the future of horror movies?

André Øvredal

I mean it keeps they keep engaging with the audience in a way that I’m thinking that trailer is when I grew up 90s and stuff like that. There were a lot of thrillers and a movie theater. They’ve pretty much gone because they’ve become television thrillers have basically come to television and what’s left is big superhero spectacles at 200 million dollars because they’re.

André Øvredal

Extremely big. And then you have horror movies that are that are feeding the audience or giving the audience an experience of community experience.

André Øvredal

And I think that’s I think that is all.

André Øvredal

I think that’s gonna be there. I think the audience is always going to crave that experience. So I think the horror genre is it is in very good shape we just have to keep coming up with fun original stuff that you’ve never seen before. You just have to keep reinvigorating and every once a decade I think that somebody seems to find a way to renew the horror genre.

André Øvredal

Like you can say that the splatter movie had its time. The slasher movie had its time. The zombies had their time.

André Øvredal

Now we had to found footage genre coming off of Blair Witch Project and into all kinds of other films and then these days it’s more elaborate horror movies it seems from the conjuring onwards it seems to be more story driven horror movies. So it’s keeps changing

Geek-Pool

but there are also a lot of sequels.

André Øvredal

Yeah.

Geek-Pool

for example did not a seque of any of your movies. I mean all of you movies have an open end. Can you imagine to do a sequel of Scary Stories to Tell in the dark. Oe is this story for you like your other films an open End

André Øvredal

I mean Troll Hunter I was done with when I made it. I didn’t have any more to say. I mean we can tell stories about trolls all day long in a way. But it wouldn’t be anything new and Jane Doe. It’s kind of a stun story as well. And then. But scary stories has one hundred little stories. It’s different. So we can easily create another movie. It was kind of meant to be. Several movies as there were several books. So if we come up with a good story for the for a sequel I will be very happy to do it.

Geek-Pool

And how difficult was it to find the right stories for this movie. Like you said there are hundreds of stories.

André Øvredal

I mean I wasn’t part of that process but Guillermo and the writers did it and they kind of basically took the Hundred Stories and did an American Idol kind of contest and got it down to five times stories and then they put them in. You know that weave them into the script in a way that I found really great. It was such a fun way of doing an anthology kind of story but with an overarching main narrative which I thought was wonderful.

Geek-Pool

I also think that the movie is not like an anthology to me it’s more like a closed movie. How difficult was it for you to bring these stories together?

André Øvredal

No I mean it’s it’s kind of all right all in the script. We just had to focus on making sure that the creatures and the character especially the creatures were like in the books because they’re as famous as the stories in the books. The drawings are really amazing I mean they’re art. So that was a big thing to get. But it’s more about creating all the flows in the absence of a story so that when we go into like a horror scene if you will that you come out with a consequence that there is results from them so that the characters have learned something.

André Øvredal

Somebody has died or something has happened. So that in the next section of the movie there is reaction to that. There is a consequence. So you kind of have to just make sure it flows and hangs together in a way.

Geek-Pool

Another question can you tell me. Have you seen images of. How do you create or make this movie when you read the script.

Geek-Pool

I mean I get images in my head obviously but Terry I’m very realistic when it comes to moviemaking. I know that whatever image I create in my head when I’m reading it is gonna be something else when you get to this. You’re gonna end up in a room that you’ve never seen before and it’s gonna be nothing like what you had in your mind. So you have to just kind of stick focus on the story and let the world evolve and try to push it and be balanced to realism against the against your ideas.

André Øvredal

But I mean a lot of directors like I think Ridley Scott, think Guillermo as they draw and they create these images. I don’t really do that.

André Øvredal

I just kind of focus on the on the stories and let the movie evolve in a different way.

André Øvredal

So I consider them artists. I’m not, I’m just a storyteller. They’re like Guillermo and Ridley Scott and there’s a lot of other filmmakers, they’re amazing artists.

André Øvredal

They see images in a different way and I think yeah.

André Øvredal

So no it’s all about finding a balance between realists what what how it is to make a movie because it’s always compromises.

Geek-Pool

And last question can you tell me something about your future projects. What we can we expect from you.

André Øvredal

I’m in right now I’m preparing a movie called The Long Walk which is based on a novel by Stephen King. Yeah yeah it’s a wonderful book. Really scary but very different in a very different way.

André Øvredal

And that’s where we’re gonna shoot it next year early next year. I think so we’re just in the starting starting to prepare it. So that’s that’s my next movie. But I also have a movie coming out next year that we all were the shop that’s called mortal that is a Norwegian American co-production that is a completely different type of movie. It’s not a horror movie.

André Øvredal

Oh it’s it’s grounded superhero ish story about a guy an American backpacker who comes to Norway to discuss his he. He has a mirror and Norwegian heritage. And he’s discovering that he also has powers related to the Northern mythology. That he that he doesn’t know how to control and it becomes a mess.

Geek-Pool

So I can see your fascination in northern myths and fables.

André Øvredal

Yeah like trolls Yeah the Northern mythology and yeah it’s I would love to make movies about these kind of big cultural things we have in Norway as well.

Geek-Pool

Thank you.

André Øvredal

Oh my pleasure.

Geek-Pool

I’m happy to have this long conversation. Yeah I know it’s funny. Yeah. I. Really enjoyed it. I enjoyed your movie and I hope to see Mortal.

André Øvredal

And good luck with your own film. Yeah.

 

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